National Park Service v. National Trust for Historic Preservation

National Park Service v. National Trust for Historic Preservation

September 8, 2026 · 53 min

About this episode

The episode discusses the legal implications of allowing the President to build a large ballroom in a national park context.

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Organizations: National Park Service, National Trust for Historic Preservation

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