About this episode

Isabella Constantino discusses her life after NXIVM and the complexities of healing from cult experiences.

This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. In the first installment of our “Where Are They Now?” series, we catch up with Season 5 guest Isabella Constantino to find out what life looks like after NXIVM when the smoke clears and the cult fog machine finally runs out of juice. Isabella shares what she’s been up to lately, including working at an art museum in Buffalo, and talks honestly about the long, weird, non-linear business of healing—because recovery is not a quick weekend workshop with flip charts and matching outfits. We also revisited her time in Albany, where the pressure was high, the logic was loopy, and the vibe was of a productivity cult with a side of emotional whiplash. We touch on her working on her Tourette’s with Nancy Salzman and the gaslighty phone calls from Mark Elliott trying to sell the miracle cure. We chat information silos, the body keeping score, and why sometimes the biggest breakthrough is simply realizing, “Oh, right… that was bananas.” Stay tuned for Part 2 on Thursday. Follow Isabella on her website, isabellaconstantino.com , or on Facebook or Instagram @ic_artconstantly . Trigger warning: This episode contains frank discussion of cults, coercive…

People in this episode

Hosts: Sarah Edmondson, Anthony “Nippy” Ames

Guest: Isabella Constantino

Topics covered

• NXIVM
• cult recovery
• healing
• emotional abuse
• identity

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BetterHelp

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