
Motives, Meaning, and the Enneagram with Jeff Cook
From A Pastor and a Philosopher Walk into a Bar by Randy Knie & Kyle Whitaker
November 28, 2025 · 1h 28m · Season 6 · Episode 3
About this episode
Jeff Cook returns to discuss the Enneagram and its implications for understanding motives and personal growth.
Text us your questions! Our friend Jeff Cook—writer, podcaster, and Enneagram systems thinker—is back with us to discuss his recent book (volume 1 of a series because of course it is): about the Enneagram. (See our first conversation from S03E26 here.) Jeff explains how the Enneagram names the “why” beneath our choices, conflicts, faith, and love. Randy shares how the framework has sharpened his self-awareness and softened his edges. And Kyle characteristically pushes back a bit on evidence, ...
People in this episode
Hosts: Randy Knie, Kyle Whitaker
Guest: Jeff Cook
Topics covered
- Enneagram
- self-awareness
- conflict resolution
- faith
- love
- personal growth
Keywords
- Enneagram
- self-awareness
- motives
- conflict
- faith
- love
- personal growth
Mentioned in this episode
Books & works: Enneagram, volume 1 of a series
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