Why AUKUS delivers second-hand subs

Why AUKUS delivers second-hand subs

June 3, 2026 · 16 min

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The episode discusses the concerns surrounding the AUKUS submarine deal and the implications of spending on nuclear powered submarines.

Should we be spending up to $368 billion on nuclear powered submarines over the next 30 years? Peter Garrett, the former Labor Minister and Midnight Oil star doesn’t think so. He’s set up a crowdfunded inquiry into the AUKUS submarine deal. It follows the government revealing the original agreement has changed a bit with the US to switch out one new sub for a second hand one. Today, Sam Roggeveen, director of the Lowy Institute’s International Security Program, on the growing concerns about the deal and what we really need to defend Australia. Featured: Sam Roggeveen, director of the Lowy Institute’s International Security Program

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