The Short Sellers

The Short Sellers

From Against the Rules: The Big Short Companion by Pushkin Industries

October 21, 2025 · 26 min · Season 6 · Episode 2

About this episode

Michael Lewis interviews Greg Lippmann and Steve Eisman about their insights into the subprime mortgage market before the financial crash.

Michael Lewis speaks with Greg Lippmann, formerly a bond trader at Deutsche Bank, made famous when he was portrayed by Ryan Gosling in the movie version of The Big Short. And Lewis catches up with Steve Eisman, the Wall Street investor who was played by actor Steve Carell. When did they each start to suspect the subprime mortgage market was rotten, and why? And how did they perceive each other in the wary days and months before the market crashed? For more, check out Steve Eisman’s podcast, The Real Eisman Playbook. Order The Big Short audiobook, now narrated by Michael Lewis, on  Audible , Spotify , pushkin.fm/bigshort or wherever you get audiobooks. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

People in this episode

Host: Michael Lewis

Guests: Greg Lippmann, Steve Eisman

Topics covered

  • subprime mortgage market
  • financial crisis
  • Wall Street
  • investing
  • short selling

Keywords

  • subprime mortgage
  • short sellers
  • financial crisis
  • investors
  • The Big Short

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Deutsche Bank, Audible, Spotify, pushkin.fm

Products: The Big Short audiobook

Books & works: The Big Short, The Real Eisman Playbook

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