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Michael Perry discusses the importance of relationships over design in growing an agency.

Featuring: Michael Perry, Tavern In episode 152, I sit down with Mike Perry, founder and Chief Creative Officer of Tavern, a Brooklyn-based creative shop building brands in food, beverage, hospitality, and sports. We get into the philosophy that drives everything Tavern does — what Mike calls "modern heritage," the practice of mining a brand's past for its real equity and modernizing it for today's consumer without falling into retro, nostalgia, or flash-in-the-pan rebrands. He shares why he's writing a how-to book on it, how Tavern embeds with clients like a fractional chief creative officer, and the story behind HyperBlast, the high-octane drink brand he's launching as his own client. For agency owners, this one is a clinic on real niching — Mike argues expertise isn't your portfolio, it's whether you actually care about the category your clients live in. We also land on the thing he wishes he'd leaned into earlier: this is a relationship business, full stop, and the deepest relationships make the best work. Key Bytes • Real niching isn't about your portfolio — it's whether you genuinely care about the category your clients live in. • Modern heritage means mining a brand's past…

People in this episode

Host: Agency Outsight

Guest: Michael Perry

Topics covered

• agency growth
• branding
• relationships
• modern heritage
• niching

Keywords

• agency growth
• branding
• modern heritage
• niching
• HyperBlast

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Tavern

Products: HyperBlast

Places: Brooklyn

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