About this episode

The episode discusses the impact of AI coding assistants on application security and the future of software engineering.

When the CEO of Anthropic declares that human coding will disappear within six months, followed quickly by the death of software engineering itself, what does that mean for the future of cybersecurity? In this episode, Ashish and Caleb break down the massive paradigm shift caused by AI coding assistants like Claude Code. Caleb shares his firsthand experience building and deploying software where he has never looked at a single line of the underlying code, arguing that while the need for security will never go away, the humans performing those roles very well might . We explore the illusion of AI prototyping why building a quick AI tool is easy, but maintaining it in production is a nightmare and dive deep into the "Build vs. Buy" debate . Caleb predicts an upcoming "forest fire" that will wipe out bloated security startups, forcing the market to consolidate around vendors with true, defensible moats based on network effects, hardware integration, or complex regulatory expertise Questions asked: (00:00) Introduction(02:50) The Anthropic CEO's Claim: Is Software Engineering Dead? (04:00) Separating Coding from Software Engineering (06:50) Managing Software…

People in this episode

Host: Ashish

Guest: Caleb

Topics covered

• AI coding assistants
• application security
• software engineering
• cybersecurity
• Build vs. Buy debate
• security startups

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Anthropic

Products: Claude Code

Places: COBOL

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