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The episode discusses the challenges of asset intelligence in cybersecurity and the shift from traditional CMDBs to dynamic asset intelligence.

Why do CISOs still struggle with asset intelligence in 2026? Despite decades of security tooling, most organizations still have a massive 40% "dark matter" blind spot in their environment and the explosion of ephemeral AI agents is only making it worse. In this episode, Ashish and Caleb sit down with Joe Diamond , CEO, Axonius to discuss the evolution of the asset space. We explore why traditional CMDBs (which track business processes and IT hardware) fall short for cyber asset attack surface management (CAASM), and why the industry is shifting from static asset inventory to dynamic asset intelligence . Joe spoke about how AI agents whether they run for five minutes or five months must be treated as a distinct asset class, complete with their own access logs and token utilization tracking. The conversation also goes into the future of enterprise software interfaces. Joe predicts that within three to five years, the traditional dashboard UI will completely disappear, replaced entirely by natural language prompts and AI-driven BI. Finally, we tackle the "Build vs. Buy" dilemma: if AI can integrate tools in five minutes, why do we still need vendors? Questions…

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Hosts: Ashish, Caleb

Guest: Joe Diamond

Topics covered

• asset intelligence
• CMDB
• cybersecurity
• AI agents
• enterprise software
• dynamic asset management

Keywords

• asset management
• dark matter
• CAASM
• AI-driven BI
• Build vs. Buy
• enterprise environments

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Organizations: Axonius

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