About this episode

Patrick Casale interviews Caryn Zaner about running a values-driven business in a challenging capitalist system.

In this episode, Patrick Casale talks with Caryn Zaner, PsyD, founder of Therapy for the Apocalypse and Felt Not Fixed, about what it means to run a business—and a life—rooted in values, authenticity, and a commitment to community, especially while navigating the challenges of a capitalist system that isn’t designed for equity or collective care. Here are 3 key takeaways: Embrace Value Alignment, Even When It’s Hard: If your business decisions don’t feel authentic or congruent with your values, it’s nearly impossible to stay motivated or feel good about your work. It’s okay to leave “money on the table” if it means staying true to yourself. Community and Accessible Care Matter: Healing happens in relationships, not isolation. The use of equitable sliding scales and group therapy can make care more accessible and build genuine community in and out of the therapy room. Rejection is Part of Advocacy: Practice advocating for yourself, even if it feels “annoying.” Not everyone will be your people—and that’s by design. Standing up for what truly matters means you’ll attract your “right fit” clients and repel those who aren’t aligned. That’s how you create real impact. Let’s dare to be…

People in this episode

Host: Patrick Casale

Guest: Caryn Zaner

Topics covered

• business values
• authenticity
• community care
• advocacy
• mental health

Keywords

• business authenticity
• community care
• mental health advocacy
• equitable therapy
• value alignment

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Therapy for the Apocalypse, Felt Not Fixed

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