Pope vs Trump: why Trump picked a fight with Pope Leo

Pope vs Trump: why Trump picked a fight with Pope Leo

From Americano by The Spectator

April 16, 2026 · 26 min

About this episode

The episode discusses Donald Trump's clash with Pope Leo XIV regarding crime and foreign policy.

Donald Trump’s latest clash with the Catholic Church stunned even the most hardened veterans of culture-war X. According to the President of the United States, the Chicago-born Pope Leo XIV, the conspicuously holy spiritual leader of 1.3 billion people, is “WEAK on crime and terrible on foreign policy.” He also claimed that, “If I wasn’t in the White House, Leo wouldn’t be in the Vatican.” – The Spectator's Vatican correspondent Damian Thompson and Freddy Gray join in a podcast collaboration to discuss the dispute. Become a Spectator subscriber today to access this podcast without adverts. Go to spectator.co.uk/adfree to find out more. For more Spectator podcasts, go to spectator.co.uk/podcasts . Contact us: podcast@spectator.co.uk Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Guests: Damian Thompson, Freddy Gray

Topics covered

  • Trump
  • Pope
  • Catholic Church
  • culture wars
  • politics
  • foreign policy

Keywords

  • Trump
  • Pope Leo XIV
  • Catholic Church
  • culture wars
  • foreign policy
  • crime

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Organizations: The Spectator

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