
No Jobs, No Ladder, No Relief — Except, For Some, a Cigarette
From Ankler Agenda by TheAnkler.com
April 2, 2026 · 31 min
About this episode
The episode discusses the resurgence of smoking among young Hollywood workers amidst career challenges and generational debates.
Sean Penn, puffing away inside the Beverly Hilton at the Golden Globes. Kylie Jenner, with a cigarette dangling out of her mouth, on the cover of Vanity Fair. Nurse Dana, taking a drag on The Pitt. Smoking is back — both IRL and on screen — just as Hollywood’s shrinking career ladder leaves many millennials feeling stuck and a stressed-out Gen Z, inheriting the collapse, searches for connection and release. Editor, writer and former pack-a-day smoker Degen Pener joins Elaine Low and Sean McNulty to explain what’s driving young Hollywood workers to light up after talking to young industry workers outside clubs across Los Angeles — and what Gen Xers like him and Sean make of it. Plus, Elaine and Sean debate which generation really has it worse in today’s business — and whether boomers are to blame. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
People in this episode
Hosts: Elaine Low, Sean McNulty
Guest: Degen Pener
Topics covered
- Hollywood
- smoking
- millennials
- Gen Z
- career challenges
- generational debate
Keywords
- smoking
- Hollywood
- millennials
- Gen Z
- career ladder
- generational issues
- Degen Pener
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Vanity Fair
Places: Beverly Hilton, Los Angeles
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