
162: Behavioral Performance In Business with Cathy Maday
From Anything But Typical by Gary Frey & Ben McDonald
February 11, 2026 · 1h 15m · Episode 163
About this episode
Cathy Maday discusses her journey from the Bad River Indian Reservation to entrepreneurship, emphasizing the importance of agency and personal instincts in business.
“I’ve been poor before. That doesn’t bother me.” – Cathy MadayCathy didn’t grow up around startup jargon or leadership books. She grew up on the Bad River Indian Reservation in northern Wisconsin.Work wasn’t a phase. It was how you made things possible.You did chores, took odd jobs, & learned early that no one was coming to rescue you. There was freedom in that.By 12, Cathy was holding her first paper paycheck.She hasn’t stopped working since — not always because she had to, but because work meant agency. Motion. A steady sense of “I can handle what’s next.”That assurance followed her from childhood into college, into technology, & into corporate environments where she saw it clearly: systems weren’t failing. The people inside them were carrying too much, alone.Eventually, Cathy did what entrepreneurs do. She chose the harder path & built the solution — Wingspan — from the same instinct that had always guided her: if you want options, you create them.This episode isn’t about hustle or reinvention.It’s about knowing when the instincts that made you strong are asking for something completely new.To learn more, connect with her at WingspanPerformance.com.Entrepreneurship…
People in this episode
Hosts: Gary Frey, Ben McDonald
Guest: Cathy Maday
Topics covered
- behavioral performance
- entrepreneurship
- work agency
- personal growth
- corporate systems
Keywords
- behavioral performance
- entrepreneurship
- Wingspan
- work agency
- personal growth
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Wingspan
Books & works: Wendell Berry
Places: Bad River Indian Reservation, Wisconsin
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