144: The Power of Creating Safe Spaces with Matthew Barbers & Reef Liggayu

144: The Power of Creating Safe Spaces with Matthew Barbers & Reef Liggayu

March 6, 2026 · 49 min

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A reflective conversation about healing, purpose, and the importance of creating safe spaces for personal growth and transformation.

In this deeply reflective episode of Anyways, Moving Forward with Libni , I sat down with Matt and Reef for a powerful conversation about healing, purpose, and the importance of safe spaces. Coming from different backgrounds but sharing a similar calling, the three of us explore how our personal breakdowns, struggles with self-doubt, and experiences with depression ultimately led us toward meaningful work, helping others heal, express themselves, and reconnect with love. Together, we unpack what it truly means to hold space for others, why forgiveness begins within, and how the journey toward self-awareness can transform pain into purpose. This episode is an honest and vulnerable conversation about growth, accountability, and remembering who we truly are beneath the noise of the world. What You'll Hear In This Episode Following the Call to Expansion Becoming the Person You Once Needed How Pain Turns Into Purpose Breaking Through Limitations What a Safe Space Really Means The Role of Failure and Fear The Power of Forgiveness Awareness Is the First Step Toward Healing The Courage to Be Honest Key Takeaways Your breakdowns often lead you toward your deepest purpose Safe spaces allow…

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Host: Libni Fortuna

Guests: Matthew Barbers, Reef Liggayu

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