
Saturday Workshop | How do 2s, 5s, and 8s Connect?
From Around the Circle | An Enneagram Channel by Jeff Cook and T.J. Wilson
June 11, 2026 · 1h 20m
About this episode
This episode explores how Enneagram types 2, 5, and 8 connect and the dynamics of their relationships.
Join us Saturday, June 13th to discuss 369s! : HERE This episode goes some places! In this month's Second Saturday gathering, we explored the Enneagram's Affect Groups (sometimes called Harmony Groups), drawing on the work of David Daniels. The conversation focused on the 2-5-8 triad , often called the Relationists or Rejection Group . Together we explored questions such as: What does it mean to "expect rejection" in relationships? How do Twos, Fives, and Eights offer connection through gifts, service, knowledge, protection, and strength? Why do these types often maintain a small circle of true vulnerability? How do experiences of rejection, betrayal, unmet needs, and emotional exposure shape the way these types connect with others? What is the difference between transparency and vulnerability? How do our instincts (Self-Preservation, Social, and One-to-One) influence the way we seek connection? An idea to hold that may bring clarity to this discussion is this: The term "Rejection" refers to the idea that these types unconsciously assume that their ordinary needs may not be welcomed, so they learn to gain connection by offering something rather than simply showing up with their…
People in this episode
Hosts: Jeff Cook, T.J. Wilson
Topics covered
- Enneagram
- Affect Groups
- relationships
- vulnerability
- connection
- rejection
- emotional exposure
Keywords
- Enneagram
- 2-5-8 triad
- connection
- vulnerability
- rejection
- emotional exposure
- self-sufficiency
- strength
Mentioned in this episode
Books & works: Enneagram, Relationists, Rejection Group
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