A Club You Don't Want To Be In with Joan Vassos, Kathy Swarts, and Michael Allio

A Club You Don't Want To Be In with Joan Vassos, Kathy Swarts, and Michael Allio

July 2, 2026 · 53 min

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Bachelor Nation favorites discuss processing grief and finding love after loss.

Bachelor Nation favorites Joan Vassos, Kathy Swarts, and Michael Allio are all members of the club no one wants to be in - they’ve all lost a spouse.    The three discuss processing grief, balancing parenthood with loss, and finding love in chapter two.   Plus, we hear about Michael’s new children’s book, Where The Wild Heart Grows , and its powerful message!   Email us at:  IDOPOD@iheartradio.com  or call us at 844-4-I Do Pod (844-443-6763) Follow I Do, Part 2 on  Instagram  and  TikTok See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Guests: Joan Vassos, Kathy Swarts, Michael Allio

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Books & works: Where The Wild Heart Grows

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