About this episode

Christi and Kelly discuss the journeys of Mackenzie and Nia on Dance Moms, highlighting their struggles and triumphs as underdogs.

Christi and Kelly recap not one, but two Dance Moms throwback specials, this time looking back at Mackenzie and Nia — two original team members who spent years proving they were MORE than the roles the show tried to force them into. Mackenzie was the baby of the team, the funny little sister, and the kid everyone remembers for wanting to stay home and eat chips. But behind all those adorable one-liners was a girl constantly being measured against Maddie. Christi and Kelly revisit the moments that made Mackenzie so lovable, while also talking about how hard it must have been to grow up on camera with your older sister treated as the standard you were always supposed to chase. Nia’s story is different, but just as frustrating. From the beginning, Holly had to fight for her daughter to be seen, respected, and taken seriously. Christi and Kelly look back at the moments where Abby crossed the line, the dances that finally let Nia step into something bigger, and the season five music video that showed exactly why Holly stopped waiting for Abby to create opportunities. Grab your tickets to our LIVE TOUR! Connecticut (October 2)…

People in this episode

Hosts: Christi Lukasiak, Kelly Hyland

Topics covered

• Dance Moms
• reality TV
• underdogs
• personal growth
• sibling dynamics

Keywords

• Dance Moms
• Mackenzie
• Nia
• reality TV
• Christi Lukasiak
• Kelly Hyland
• Holly
• Abby
• underdogs

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Books & works: Dance Moms

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