About this episode

W. Kamau Bell interviews Prentis Hemphill about their book and the complexities of healing within a community context.

In this bonus episode, the seats are turned as W. Kamau Bell interviews Prentis about their book What it Takes to Heal. These two dig into the complexities of being a middle child, why healing is often dismissed as "soft" or seen as an individualistic pursuit, and make the case that real healing is rooted in community. They also talk candidly about shame versus guilt, actual accountability, and how belonging has to remain intact for real transformation to happen. This conversation was r...

People in this episode

Host: W. Kamau Bell

Guest: Prentis Hemphill

Topics covered

• healing
• community
• shame
• guilt
• accountability
• transformation

Keywords

• healing
• community
• middle child
• shame
• guilt
• accountability
• transformation

Mentioned in this episode

Books & works: What it Takes to Heal

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