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Stephen Cummings joins Jo Reed to discuss three audiobooks that explore themes of ambition and labor.

Contributor Stephen Cummings joins host Jo Reed to talk about David Pogue’s Apple: The First 50 Years, which Pogue narrates with the confidence and curiosity of a longtime tech journalist, weaving in archival clips and company lore. They turn to Noam Scheiber’s Mutiny: The Rise and Revolt of the College-Educated Working Class, where André Santana’s restrained and intelligent narration underscores the frustrations of workers organizing at companies like Starbucks, Amazon, and Apple. Finally, Woody Brown’s Upward Bound employs a strong cast led by T. R. Knight to explore life inside an underfunded adult day program, giving its central character a vivid and deeply affecting inner voice. All three audiobooks look closely at ambition, labor, and the gap between how work is imagined and how it’s lived. Audiobooks Discussed: Apple: The First 50 Years written and read by David Pogue (Simon & Schuster Audio) Mutiny: The Rise and Revolt of the College-Educated Working Class by Noam Scheiber, read by André Santana (Macmillan Audio) Upward Bound by Woody Brown, read by T.R. Knight, Daphne Rubin-Vega, Alex Edelman, Pete Holmes, Midori Francis, Carlos Miranda, Brandon Flynn, and Nikki M. James…

People in this episode

Host: Jo Reed

Guest: Stephen Cummings

Topics covered

• audiobooks
• labor
• ambition
• working class
• narration
• tech journalism

Keywords

• audiobooks
• David Pogue
• Noam Scheiber
• working class
• labor
• narration
• Apple
• Mutiny
• Upward Bound

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Simon & Schuster Audio, Macmillan Audio

Books & works: Apple: The First 50 Years, Mutiny: The Rise and Revolt of the College-Educated Working Class, Upward Bound

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