About this episode

The episode features a discussion on leadership and resilience with guests Tobias and Adriana from Emblem Hospice Tucson, highlighting their journey and the lessons learned along the way.

Hosts Rich Lewis and Elliot McMillan sit down with Tobias, Executive Director, and Adriana, Director of Clinical Services, from Emblem Hospice Tucson for an honest and inspiring conversation about the realities of leadership. Their journey is anything but linear—marked by moments of major success, periods of significant financial hardship, and ultimately culminating in earning the Phoenix Award. In this episode, Tobias and Adriana reflect on the highs and lows that have shaped their leadership approach, offering a candid look at what it takes to persevere through uncertainty and challenge. They share how their growth has been driven by the influence of peer leaders, a willingness to learn through trial and error, and a deep well of grit and passion. Their story is a powerful reminder that resilience and adaptability are at the heart of meaningful leadership.

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