Pronouncing the Interior

Pronouncing the Interior

From Berlant & Novak by Kate Berlant, Jacqueline Novak

May 5, 2026 · 49 min

About this episode

Kate and Jacqueline explore various themes including choreography, relationships, and personal updates while sharing humorous anecdotes.

Lost in the curtain and looking up rugs. This week, a manifested paediatrician, the willingness to sing, and a foretold pilgrimage. Kate shares her true feelings about choreography, while Jacqueline engages in extreme massaging of the neck. Self-containment and ghosting the ghost tour. If that’s not Gaia, what is? An update on Kate's nightstands and Jacqueline’s scrolling relationship. Black pointy boots and babies at Shirley Temple’s house. The willingness to sing inspires a night that the Berlants wont soon forget. A tear rolling down the cheek, all lights are green.  Listen ad-free and hear the return of Product Corner — where Kate and Jacqueline share their latest purchases, reviews, and returns — by becoming a Premium Hag .

People in this episode

Hosts: Kate Berlant, Jacqueline Novak

Topics covered

  • choreography
  • massaging
  • nightstands
  • relationships
  • singing
  • pilgrimage

Keywords

  • choreography
  • massaging
  • nightstands
  • singing
  • relationships
  • pilgrimage
  • Product Corner

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Organizations: Product Corner

Places: Gaia

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