Silent, Internal, and Painful

Silent, Internal, and Painful

From Berlant & Novak by Kate Berlant, Jacqueline Novak

February 17, 2026 · 1h 5m

About this episode

Jacqueline and Kate discuss the challenges of acting and share personal anecdotes while welcoming a surprise guest.

Glory when someone submits to your recommendation. Jacqueline and Kate revisit the hardest acting challenge: surprise. The Hags’ second ever guest breaks in unexpectedly much like a tiger into a church, and childhood memories of vomit re-examined. Jacqueline was cabinet maker before she was ever a standup comedian. And Uncle Fester meant more than you know to Kate. Sometimes the art is too good and other times civic rage drives one to use big words poorly. In other news, Kate is starting pre-med and Jacqueline’s becoming a trial lawyer. It's always and therefore never too late. Edited and mixed by Allie Graham Music by Naomi McPherson 🎙️ Rate and Review. 🌟 Premium Feed: Subscribe 🛍️ Shop Our Favorites: Shop My Store 👕 Official Merch: Merchtable Store 📱 Instagram: @poogpodcast If you ever hear an ad during the show that you suspect shouldn't be there - please immediately let the Berlant & Novak ads team know at podcasts@wearebv.com While there are strict blocks on certain ad categories in the show's automated ads system, **sometimes advertisers find ways to circumvent these restrictions**. They might categorize their ads differently or use unclear descriptions that don't…

People in this episode

Host: Kate

Guest: Jacqueline

Topics covered

  • acting
  • childhood memories
  • career changes
  • civic rage
  • surprise

Keywords

  • acting challenge
  • surprise
  • childhood memories
  • career
  • civic rage

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Allie Graham, Naomi McPherson

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