078: The Pigeon Lady: Giving a Voice to the Birds We Overlook

078: The Pigeon Lady: Giving a Voice to the Birds We Overlook

August 17, 2026 · 40 min · Episode 78

About this episode

Cheryl Moss interviews Susan Joyce, 'The Pigeon Lady', about her journey advocating for pigeons and challenging misconceptions about these often-overlooked birds.

Pigeons are one of the most familiar birds in the world, yet they are also among the most misunderstood. In this episode of the Better Life for Animals Podcast, Cheryl Moss talks with Susan Joyce, affectionately known as "The Pigeon Lady," about how an unexpected encounter with pigeons changed the direction of her life. Susan shares how she went from working in veterinary practice to caring for hundreds of pigeons and eventually becoming a passionate advocate for birds that are often dismissed as pests. She challenges common misconceptions about pigeons, shares some fascinating facts about their intelligence and parenting behaviors, and explains why our relationship with these birds is far more complicated than most people realize. The conversation also explores the realities of rescue, including the financial challenges faced by rehabilitators and sanctuaries, humane approaches to managing pigeon populations, and why collaboration is essential to creating lasting change. Most importantly, Susan invites us to look at pigeons differently. These are individual animals deserving of compassion, care, and protection. Listen to the episode and learn more…

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