Ep 61: Beyond the Badge: The Ugly Underneath with Carlos Rodriguez

About this episode

Carlos Rodriguez discusses the emotional impact of investigating crimes against children and the importance of sharing these stories.

Some cases never leave you. In this episode of Beyond the Barrel, we sit down with Carlos Rodriguez — author of The Ugly Underneath and a former crimes-against-children detective sergeant who spent nearly three decades confronting some of the darkest realities imaginable. After 27 years with the Washington State Patrol, Carlos retired as a nationally recognized expert in child exploitation investigations and proactive operations targeting predators. As the leader of WSP’s Missing and Exploited Children Task Force and an FBI Task Force Officer, he helped develop investigative strategies that would later be modeled and replicated across the country. But behind the arrests, the operations, and the headlines was a human being carrying the emotional weight of the job. This conversation goes beyond tactics and titles. Carlos opens up about the mental toll of investigating crimes against children, the darkness investigators absorb over time, and the reality many first responders quietly battle long after the shift ends. We also discuss his book, The Ugly Underneath, and why telling these stories matters. Beyond the Barrel is where we pour truths—straight, no chaser. This episode is raw…

People in this episode

Host: Beyond The Barrel Podcast

Guest: Carlos Rodriguez

Topics covered

• child exploitation
• mental health
• law enforcement
• investigative strategies
• first responders
• emotional toll

Keywords

• child exploitation
• investigative strategies
• mental health
• first responders
• The Ugly Underneath
• Washington State Patrol
• FBI
• emotional toll

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Washington State Patrol, FBI

Books & works: The Ugly Underneath

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