January 28, 2026 · 32 min · Season 4 · Episode 135
About this episode
The episode explores the dynamics of Enneagram Type 8 subtypes through real-time experiences of decision-making and leadership.
This week’s episode isn’t fully evergreen, because it’s recorded right as Kelly is leading a VU service trip to Jamaica and a major winter storm is about to hit the Midwest. That real-time pressure makes it the perfect setup for Enneagram Type 8 subtypes, because you hear “8 energy” in action: decision-making, urgency, leadership, control, and the tension of letting go when the outcome is out of your hands. Damon and Kelly break down the three Type 8 instinctual variants (self-preservation, s...