The Overhead Myth Is Undermining Impact with Jamie Allison feat. Rusty Stahl
From Break Fake Rules: Change Big Giving For Good by Stupski Foundation
March 4, 2026 · 27 min · Season 3 · Episode 7
About this episode
The episode discusses the importance of investing in nonprofit workers to enhance impact and protect democracy.
What happens when philanthropy stops treating the people doing the work as an unnecessary expense and starts funding nonprofit partners like it actually wants them to win? In this episode, Stupski Foundation CEO Glen Galaich and returning co-host Jamie Allison, Executive Director of the Walter and Elise Haas Fund, react to a Chronicle of Philanthropy piece on the high cost of low nonprofit salaries and the dangerous backlash nonprofits are facing right now. They are joined by guest Rusty Stahl, president and CEO of Fund the People, a leading advocate for investing in nonprofit workers, to make the case that strengthening the nonprofit workforce is not just a strategic investment, it is crucial to protecting democracy itself. 💡Rusty Stahl: What we're seeing in our research is the more money you put into the staff and the people doing the work, the better the program is, and the greater the impact and results. Learn more about Fund the People and their work to strengthen the nonprofit workforce so organizations can win for their missions. Preorder your copy of Glen’s book, CONTROL: Why Big Giving Falls Short . Learn about the Stupski Foundation . Co-Hosts: Jamie Allison & Glen…
People in this episode
Hosts: Glen Galaich, Jamie Allison
Guest: Rusty Stahl
Topics covered
- philanthropy
- nonprofit workforce
- funding
- impact
- democracy
- salaries
Keywords
- philanthropy
- nonprofit
- funding
- workforce
- impact
- salaries
- democracy
- Rusty Stahl
Mentioned in this episode
Organizations: Stupski Foundation, Walter and Elise Haas Fund, Fund the People, Chronicle of Philanthropy
Books & works: CONTROL: Why Big Giving Falls Short
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