‘Popcast’: Jack Harlow Talks Race and Ego

‘Popcast’: Jack Harlow Talks Race and Ego

From Cannonball with Wesley Morris by The New York Times

April 16, 2026 · 1h 12m

About this episode

Jack Harlow discusses his pivot to R&B and the complexities of race and ego in a conversation with Wesley Morris.

“Cannonball” is on its last week of spring break, so we’re sharing an episode of “Popcast” that features Jack Harlow discussing his pivot to R&B. In a viral clip from this episode, Harlow, a white musician, says, “I got Blacker.” Wesley was struck by Harlow's honesty and the questions raised by the full conversation.

People in this episode

Host: Wesley Morris

Guest: Jack Harlow

Topics covered

  • race
  • ego
  • R&B
  • music
  • honesty
  • cultural discussion

Keywords

  • Jack Harlow
  • R&B
  • race
  • ego
  • music
  • Cannonball
  • Popcast

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Organizations: Cannonball, Popcast, The New York Times

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