Christian Humanist Profiles Episode 277: David Zahl

Christian Humanist Profiles Episode 277: David Zahl

January 19, 2026 · 1h 5m

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David Zahl discusses the themes of grace and exhaustion in relation to his book and the New Testament's message.

The New Testament book of Revelation is light on scenes of battle but never hesitates to announce that God has won a battle. Whether the text implies that a battle never actually happened or just moves the battles so far out of the narrative’s zone of attention that they’re rendered unimportant, Revelation as a narrative never says that the disciples of Jesus don’t need to be killers because God has already won the battles but seems to imply something like that. David Zahl’s book The Big Relief: The Urgency of Grace for a Worn-Out World brings a version of that good news to 21st-century folk, to scenes of exhaustion more than persecution, exploring some of the fake news that tries to do the work of grace and showing why only grace really saves. Christian Humanist Profiles is glad to welcome David to the show to talk about fake grace and real.

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Books & works: The Big Relief: The Urgency of Grace for a Worn-Out World, New Testament, Revelation

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