Episode 315 - Getting REAL About Saying No with Heather Archer

Episode 315 - Getting REAL About Saying No with Heather Archer

July 9, 2026 · 60 min · Season 7 · Episode 315

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Jodee Bock and Heather Archer discuss the importance of saying no in the workplace and how it can enhance career development.

What if saying no was actually one of the most important career skills you could develop? In this episode of Circle Up & Get REAL, Jodee sits down with workplace strategist, facilitator, and author Heather Archer to explore why so many talented professionals become overwhelmed by saying yes to work that doesn't move them forward. Drawing from her signature framework, The Promotion Equation, Heather explains how to distinguish between high-value work that advances your career and the "invisible" tasks that quietly consume your time and energy. Heather shares the personal story behind the framework, which began as coaching conversations with her daughter after she found herself buried in responsibilities simply because she struggled to decline requests. Those real-life lessons eventually became a practical system that helps professionals pause, evaluate opportunities, and respond with confidence rather than obligation. Together, Jodee and Heather also explore the language we use in business, challenging the common phrase "I help people…" and examining how our words shape perceptions of value. Their conversation moves beyond workplace productivity into authenticity, visibility…

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