45 - Governing AI Sprawl Before It Governs You with Yabing Wang

45 - Governing AI Sprawl Before It Governs You with Yabing Wang

From Cloud Currents by Merchants Media

February 26, 2026 · 51 min

About this episode

The episode features a discussion on the challenges of leading security in the age of AI with Yabing Wang, exploring her unique career path and the implications of AI on business security.

In this episode of Cloud Currents, host Matt Pacheco sits down with Yabing Wang, VP of Security & IT Services and dual CISO/CIO at JustWorks, for one of the most candid conversations yet on what it actually takes to lead security in the age of AI. Yabing opens up about her unlikely path from philosophy major to Netscape engineer to cybersecurity leader — and why that winding road gave her the mental frameworks she relies on today. Then the conversation gets into the real stuff: how AI is reshaping the threat landscape faster than most organizations can respond, why your attack surface grew from 5 integrations to 500 almost overnight, and what "AI tool sprawl" is actually costing your business in risk, money, and operational clarity.

People in this episode

Host: Matt Pacheco

Guest: Yabing Wang

Topics covered

  • AI governance
  • cybersecurity
  • threat landscape
  • AI tool sprawl
  • business risk
  • operational clarity

Keywords

  • AI
  • cybersecurity
  • threat landscape
  • attack surface
  • business risk
  • operational clarity
  • Yabing Wang
  • Matt Pacheco

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: JustWorks, Netscape

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