Making AI Deterministic for Developers and their Agents, with Patrick Vuong of Moderne

About this episode

Patrick Vuong discusses how Moderne is enabling developers to build software faster using deterministic AI agent tools.

Today, we have a special guest on the Code Story podcast - Patrick Vuong, Director of Product at Moderne. Moderne is the agent tools company, building the. Knowledge, discovery and execution tools that AI agents rely on - so they can operator faster, more accurately, and at far lower cost. In today's episode, Patrick is going to tell us about the company, and how Moderne is enabling developers to build software faster, and with the best context - using agents and agent tools. Their approach to semantic models produce deterministic over probabilistic, or inference driven, tools, which for this engineer/host, has been a point of skepticism for AI since the beginning. Our Sponsors: * Check out Cash App and use my code CASHAPP10 for a great deal: https://click.cash.app/ui6m/mt82fpxl #CashAppPod. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. See terms and conditions at https://cash.app/legal/us/en-us/card-agreement. Cash App Green, overdraft coverage, borrow, cash back offers and promotions provided by Cash App, a Block, Inc. brand. Visit…

People in this episode

Host: Noah Labhart

Guest: Patrick Vuong

Topics covered

• AI
• software development
• agent tools
• deterministic models
• startup culture

Keywords

• AI agents
• deterministic tools
• software development
• Moderne
• startup

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Moderne, Microsoft

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