The White Pill with Rod Martin: Iran, China, and the SBC

The White Pill with Rod Martin: Iran, China, and the SBC

From Conversations That Matter by Jon Harris

April 7, 2026 · 58 min

About this episode

Rod Martin discusses his transition from Southern Baptist issues to foreign policy, analyzing Trump's approach to Iran and China and offering optimistic predictions for conservatives.

Rod Martin explains his shift from Southern Baptist issues to in-depth foreign policy analysis, why Trump’s long-consistent realist approach to Iran, China, and global trade is strategically brilliant, and why conservatives should feel optimistic about his predictions regarding regime change in Iran, lower oil prices, an economic boom, and the midterms. The conversation also covers America’s proper role as global hegemon, deep-state resistance, and encouraging updates on reform within the Southern Baptist Convention. Order Against the Waves: Againstthewavesbook.com Jon's Music: jonharristunes.com To Support the Podcast: https://www.jonharrismedia.com/support/ Become a Patron https://www.patreon.com/jonharrispodcast Substack: https://substack.com/@jonharris Follow Jon on Twitter: https://twitter.com/jonharris1989 Follow Jon on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jonharris1989/ 00:00 - Welcome Back: Rod Martin Returns to Conversations That Matter 00:05 - From SBC Commentary to Geopolitics: What Changed for Rod 00:12 - Trump’s Consistent 40-Year Worldview on Iran and Trade 00:22 - Deep State Bureaucracy vs. Trump’s Machete Approach 00:30 - America’s Hegemony, China Threat, and Why…

People in this episode

Host: Jon

Guest: Rod Martin

Topics covered

  • Southern Baptist Convention
  • foreign policy
  • Iran
  • China
  • global trade
  • conservatism
  • regime change
  • economic boom

Keywords

  • deep state
  • global hegemon
  • oil prices
  • midterms
  • reform

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Products: Order Against the Waves

Books & works: The White Pill

Places: Iran, China, America

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