Charm of the Wilderness Ep. 2 - Public Lands & American Mythologies with Betsy Gaines Quammen

Charm of the Wilderness Ep. 2 - Public Lands & American Mythologies with Betsy Gaines Quammen

May 27, 2026 · 56 min

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Elizabeth Doerr interviews Betsy Gaines Quammen about public lands and her book American Zion.

Hello Crammers! I’m excited to bring you the rest of the Charm of the Wildrness podcast directly to your feeds! We’ve gotten some great traction over on the podcast platforms, but many of you haven’t had the chance to hear from the amazing people I brought to the podcast, so here we are in your feed. I’ll be publishing a couple of episodes per week, so you get to hear all 9 episodes of this series and the amazing people I got to talk with. This week I talk with Betsy Gaines Quammen about public lands and her book American Zion! When my family was traveling to the National Parks in Southern Utah last November, I happened to be reading American Zion: Cliven Bundy, God, & Public Lands in the West by Betsy Gaines Quammen , and I became a little bit obsessed. The moment I put it down, I emailed Betsy to interview her for the book I’m working on and to invite her to be one of my inaugural guests for the podcast. I’m excited for you to hear more from Betsy because she’s pretty badass and such a fun person. American Zion was her first book in 2020, so lucky you get a whole set of books to read of hers, all of which focus in some way on the mythologies we tell ourselves in the American…

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