What Lies Beneath: AMOC, El Niño, & Climate Chaos with Emily Schoerning

What Lies Beneath: AMOC, El Niño, & Climate Chaos with Emily Schoerning

June 17, 2026 · 59 min · Episode 127

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Emily Schoerning returns to discuss oceanic dynamics and the potential impacts of climate change, including AMOC collapse and Super El Niño events.

It’d be easy, with the clusterf**k of crazy-making economic, geopolitical, and democracy-in-decline news dominating the scene, to forget that the unraveling of environmental systems waits for no person. That’s why we’ve asked Emily Schoerning to return to Crazy Town. Asher and Emily sit down together (uh, virtually) to discuss the oceanic dynamics – from worrisome to downright apocalyptic – that could make the Strait of Hormuz disruption look like a five-minute wait at the Starbucks drive-thru. In this episode they discuss the possibility of a 2026-2027 Super El Niño, the growing risks of an AMOC collapse, and how each of us can approach near- and longer-term resilience. Originally recorded on 5/20/26. Sources & Links American Resiliency Links to graphs/resources that Emily mentioned: NOAA ENSO Update (see page 23) Columbia El Nino Update Climate Reanalyzer (to visualize average SST changes as a graph) Zach Labe's visualizations (to visualize currently non-apocalyptic Antarctic sea ice) Copernicus (to visualize SST anomalies on world map) Atlantic meridional overturning circulation slowdown modulates atmospheric rivers in a warmer climate by Mimi, M. S., Liu, W., Ma, W…

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