Episode #562: When the Rule-Based Order Wobbles: Investing in Resilience Over Size

Episode #562: When the Rule-Based Order Wobbles: Investing in Resilience Over Size

July 17, 2026 · 54 min · Season 15 · Episode 193

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Stewart Alsop discusses with Adnan Hassan the concept of small state asset classes and their potential resilience in a changing global landscape.

Stewart Alsop sits down with investor and entrepreneur Adnan Hassan on the Crazy Wisdom Podcast to explore his thesis on creating a small state asset class, using evolutionary insights from asteroids, dinosaurs, and mycelium as a framework for understanding resilient systems. Hassan brings his background in Silicon Valley technology, New York and Washington finance, and sovereign funds—including senior leadership roles at the World Bank—to explain why 162 of the world's 200 states are actually small states with populations under 12 million, and why these distributed, autonomous entities might be best positioned to survive the coming global shocks from AI, currency disruption, and the wobbling international order. For more information about Hassan's work, visit www.sac-holding.com (SAC stands for Small State Asset Class), where you can find two-minute videos explaining his approach to building this new financial architecture. Timestamps 00:00 Introduction and the asteroid, dinosaur, mycelium thesis as a framework for understanding evolutionary survival patterns across billions of years 05:00 Global order institutions are wobbling while currency systems evolve and AI emerges…

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