That Beast Was Not Me | An interview with Dr. Jeffrey Smalldon
From Crimelines® True Crime by Crimelines True Crime
January 28, 2026 · 45 min · Season 8
About this episode
An interview with Dr. Jeffrey Smalldon about his book documenting conversations with notorious murderers.
An interview with Dr. Jeffery Smalldon, author of “That Beast Was Not Me: One Forensic Psychologist, Five Decades of Conversations with Killers” THAT BEAST WAS NOT ME documents five decades of conversations with murderers like John Wayne Gacy, Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, serial sniper Thomas Lee Dillon, and Donald Harvey-then thought to be the most prolific serial killer in American history. Through letters, prison visits, and interviews, Smalldon gives readers a terrifying look into the darkest recesses of the human psyche. Get the book here To learn more: https://jeffreysmalldon.com/ Support the show! Get the exclusive show Beyond the Files plus Crimelines episodes ad free on Supercast: https://crimelines.supercast.com/ Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/crimelines Apple Subscriptions: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crimelines-true-crime/id1112004494 For one time support: https://www.basementfortproductions.com/support Links to all my socials and more: https://linktr.ee/crimelines Sources: 2026 Crimelines Podcast Source List Transcript: https://app.podscribe.ai/series/3790 If an exact transcript is needed, please request at crimelinespodcast@gmail.com  …
People in this episode
Host: Crimelines True Crime
Guest: Dr. Jeffrey Smalldon
Topics covered
- forensic psychology
- serial killers
- interviews
- criminal psychology
- murder
Keywords
- forensic psychologist
- murderers
- interviews
- psychology
- true crime
Mentioned in this episode
Books & works: That Beast Was Not Me: One Forensic Psychologist, Five Decades of Conversations with Killers
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