Let's Get Weird!

Let's Get Weird!

From Data Over Dogma by Daniel McClellan and Daniel Beecher

June 1, 2026 · 1h 8m

About this episode

The episode discusses the claims of Hebrews 1 regarding Jesus and explores the ancient Christian text The Shepherd of Hermas.

Most parents think their kids are pretty great. That makes sense. But if your son is the messianic savior of the world, the bragging rights are kind of through the roof. And that's what we get in Hebrews 1. The claim here is that God told the prophets about Jesus, and now all those awesome prophesies have come true. And Hebrews 1 seems to be bringing receipts. It quotes from all over the Hebrew Bible to point to Jesus being the begotten son and to say that angels will worship him. The question is: is that what those passages actually meant? Were they really pointing to Jesus? Then, we're taking a look at one of the weirder ancient Christian texts. It's called The Shepherd of Hermas, and for quite a while in the ancient world, it was considered scripture. So what's going on with this text? Was it a real contender to be included in the canon, or did it never stand a chance? ---- For access to an early, ad-free version of every episode of Data Over Dogma, exclusive content, and the opportunity to support our work, please consider becoming a monthly patron at…

People in this episode

Hosts: Daniel McClellan, Daniel Beecher

Topics covered

  • Christianity
  • scripture
  • prophecy
  • ancient texts
  • Hebrew Bible
  • canon

Keywords

  • Jesus
  • prophets
  • angels
  • scripture
  • canon
  • Hebrews
  • The Shepherd of Hermas

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Data Over Dogma

Books & works: Hebrews 1, The Shepherd of Hermas

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