Sins of the (Grand)father
About this episode
The episode discusses the concept of generational punishment in the Bible and explores the book Sirach's exclusion from the Jewish canon.
The sins of the fathers! It's a phrase you've heard a thousand times, but did you know it comes straight from the Bible? This week it's Bible versus Bible, and the topic is generational punishment: God visiting the iniquity of the parents upon the children to the third and fourth generation. It's in the Ten Commandments. And the other Ten Commandments. So what did those poor great-grandkids do to deserve it? And how do you square that with a God who's "slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love"? Then, is it canon? This week's contender has more names than a witness protection program: Sirach, Ben Sira, Ecclesiasticus. It came closer than almost any book to making the Jewish canon, written in Hebrew around 180 BCE and translated into Greek by the author's own grandson. So why'd it get left out? The author made one fatal mistake: he was honest about who he was and when he wrote it. The guys who lied about being ancient prophets? They made the cut. ---- Follow us on the various social media places: https://www.instagram.com/dataoverdogmapod/…
People in this episode
Hosts: Daniel McClellan, Daniel Beecher
Topics covered
- generational punishment
- Bible
- Ten Commandments
- Jewish canon
- Sirach
- honesty in scripture
Mentioned in this episode
Books & works: Sirach, Ben Sira, Ecclesiasticus, The Bible Says So
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