#130 What If You Never Had to Patch CVEs Again?

#130 What If You Never Had to Patch CVEs Again?

March 17, 2026 · 37 min · Season 4 · Episode 5

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The episode discusses security challenges in Kubernetes and features insights from guest Hannah Hawken on improving security practices.

In this episode, Ronald and Jan are joined by Hannah Hawken, partner sales at Chainguard, who brings a fresh perspective on something every Kubernetes team struggles with: security. What starts as a conversation about career paths quickly turns into a deeper discussion about how we’ve been approaching security all wrong for years. Coming from a background in development and later moving into security, she reflects on what it feels like to build software without truly understanding the ...

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