About this episode

The episode explores Steve Jobs' time at NeXT and his journey during his 'wilderness years'.

Most people know about Steve Jobs' amazing work at Apple, but what about his "wilderness years" when he created NeXT? Learn about this period from Geoffrey Cain , author of Steve Jobs in Exile: The Untold Story of NeXT and the Remaking of an American Visionary, along with key figures from NeXT’s history, including: Dan’l Lewin, Cofounder and VP of Sales and Marketing, NeXT Rich Page, Cofounder and VP of Hardware Engineering / Manufacturing, NeXT Avie Tevanian, VP of Engineering, NeXT Bud Tribble, Cofounder and VP of Software Engineering, NeXT This conversation was recorded on May 26, 2026, at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View, California. To watch a video of this program, please visit the Computer History Museum's YouTube channel. To learn more about the Computer History Museum and our upcoming CHM Live events, visit our website at www.computerhistory.org

People in this episode

Host: Computer History Museum

Guest: Geoffrey Cain

Topics covered

• Steve Jobs
• NeXT
• comeback
• technology history
• interview
• American visionary

Keywords

• Steve Jobs
• NeXT
• Geoffrey Cain
• technology
• interview
• history
• American visionary

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: NeXT

Books & works: Steve Jobs in Exile: The Untold Story of NeXT and the Remaking of an American Visionary

Places: Mountain View, California

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