L. Ron Hubbard: Sleeping with Bandits, Hunting with Pygmies And So On

About this episode

The episode dissects L. Ron Hubbard and his role in founding Scientology, analyzing a 1966 interview to explore his techniques and beliefs.

The Decoders wrap up cult season by dissecting a titan of the cult scene, the founder of Scientology, Lafayette Ronald Hubbard or L. Ron for short. A prolific science fiction author, L. Ron founded an alternative self-help movement and then developed it into his cosmic self-help 'religion' of Scientology. Scientology has now been the subject of multiple documentaries and even a fairly detailed South Park parody episode, so it feels like many are aware of the general 'deal' of Scientology. But how about L. Rob Hubbard as a guru... how many people have actually taken the time to sit down and just hear the guy out? Here at DTG HQ, we are all about the good-faith deep dives, so we decided to devote some time to analysing a 1966 Rhodesian TV interview with L. Ron Hubbard, in which a friendly Scientologist interviewer (not identified as such) politely tees up Hubbard to explain Scientology. So join us to find out how L. Ron invented a “workable science,” a “religion of religions,” and a self-help machine that raises IQ, fixes life problems, and proves life after death. By modern standards L. Ron can seem a bit quaint, but because of that, he serves as a useful primer in the core…

People in this episode

Hosts: Christopher Kavanagh, Matthew Browne

Topics covered

• cult analysis
• Scientology
• L. Ron Hubbard
• guru manipulation
• self-help movement

Keywords

• L. Ron Hubbard
• Scientology
• cult
• self-help
• guru manipulation
• interview
• religion

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Scientology

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