The Founding Fathers Didn't Plan For Trump | Gov. Josh Shapiro

The Founding Fathers Didn't Plan For Trump | Gov. Josh Shapiro

April 16, 2026 · 45 min

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Governor Josh Shapiro discusses the challenges to democracy under Trump and the importance of voter rights and integrity.

When the Founding Fathers wrote the Constitution, they couldn't have imagined that we would have a president with no shame or integrity. Today, Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro joins Marc Elias to break down the consequential voter roll lawsuits, how Democratic governors are holding the line against the White House, and what we can all do to join the opposition movement. Support Democracy Docket's mission: https://newsletters.democracydocket.com/anchor-youtube-thursday 00:00 Today's Guest: Governor Josh Shapiro 00:59 State of U.S. Democracy Under Trump 04:45 Political Courage, Integrity, and Leadership 07:42 Fighting Trump’s 2020 Election Challenges 10:51 Why Republicans Still Question 2020 Results 12:07 Lawsuit Over Voter Data & Election Security 15:53 From Attorney General to Governor: Legal Strategy 17:36 Fixing I-95 Fast & Government Efficiency 20:15 Balancing Fighting Trump with Broad Popularity 22:42 What Voters Actually Care About in 2026 25:59 Midterm Outlook & Control of Congress 29:30 Voting Rights Reforms & Election Modernization 33:52 Cost, Efficiency & Fixing Election Systems 38:03 Writing a Book & Personal Reflections 40:18 What Citizens Can Do…

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