78. Forgiveness

78. Forgiveness

From Deliberate Life™ by Pia & Bart

May 28, 2026 · 32 min

About this episode

The episode explores the complexities of forgiveness, emphasizing its importance for personal healing and emotional closure.

We open by clearing up one of the most common misunderstandings about forgiveness: that to forgive means to condone. It doesn't. Using the image of a thorn lodged in the body, we explore forgiveness as the act of removing that thorn—not for the person who put it there, but for yourself. We introduce four promises of forgiveness: I will not dwell on this incident; I will not use it against you; I will not speak of it to others; and I will not let it stand between us. We examine each promise honestly, including how rarely all four are truly kept, and what it means when they are. We explore forgiveness as a layered, often slow process—closer to emergence than decision—drawing on a deeply personal example of emotional closure reached nearly a decade after a divorce, including a consciously planned journey through psilocybin therapy, a family trip to Singapore, and a four-hour conversation that finally cleared what years of distance could not. We discuss the particular difficulty of self-forgiveness, why the subject and object being the same person makes it harder, and how an idealized self-image can make owning the impact of our choices feel almost impossible. We close by connecting…

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Hosts: Pia, Bart

Topics covered

  • forgiveness
  • emotional closure
  • self-forgiveness
  • personal growth
  • psilocybin therapy

Keywords

  • forgiveness
  • emotional closure
  • self-forgiveness
  • psilocybin therapy
  • personal growth
  • promises of forgiveness

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