Same Time Next Year | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas

Same Time Next Year | DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas

From DeProgram with Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas by Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas

April 22, 2026 · 58 min

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Ted Rall and Jamarl Thomas discuss US foreign policy, Trump's defense budget proposal, and a secret Saudi Arabia-Pakistan defense pact with guest Murtaza Hussain.

Editorial cartoonist Ted Rall and political analyst Jamarl Thomas deprogram you from mainstream media every weekday at 9 AM EST. Today we discuss: • So, there IS more “Mr. Nice Guy.” Trump blinked again by extending the ceasefire with Iran . His critics are mocking another TACO Tuesday. But the derision is better than risking more Iranian and US lives by doubling down to preserve his tough-guy persona. Inside Iran, though, Trump’s threats of military escalation lack credibility. The challenge for diplomats, from Pakistan and elsewhere, will be to find a way for Trump to claim some kind of win . • Leaked documents reveal details of a secret Saudi Arabia–Pakistan Mutual Defense Pact , now that Pakistan is playing a key role mediating the US-Israel-Iran War. We dig into this entanglement with journalist Murtaza Hussain, who broke this story for DropSite News. Hussain is a journalist specializing in national security and foreign policy. A former Intercept reporter now at Drop Site News , he offers commentary on U.S. interventions, human rights, and global affairs. He appears regularly on CNN, BBC, and MSNBC. • Trump asks Congress to increase the Defense budget by 42% (2/3 over…

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