HOTHOUSE 2: Evidence (w/ Forensic Architecture's Júlia Nueno Guitart)

About this episode

The episode discusses the implications of AI in warfare and policing with guest Júlia Nueno Guitart from Forensic Architecture.

This episode continues our collaboration with Hothouse: The Future of Demonstration, a renegade lab for democracy convened in Vienna, and extends our ongoing inquiry into artificial intelligence, power, and what it means to be human under algorithmic governance. Recorded last autumn and released amid a so-called ceasefire in Gaza, this conversation confronts the accelerating use of AI in contemporary warfare and policing, where automation does not necessarily produce precision, but rather enables mass violence, deniability, and narrative control. Our guest, Júlia Nueno Guitart, engineer, researcher, and core member of Forensic Architecture, discusses the organization’s investigations into Israel’s military campaign in Gaza, including projects such as Cartography of the Genocide, The Architecture of Genocidal Starvation, and analyses of AI-driven targeting systems like Lavender and “Where’s Daddy.” Together, we unpack how these systems collapse civilian life into probabilistic models, violate the principles of distinction and proportionality under international law, and reframe killing as a statistical inevitability. The conversation also explores investigative aesthetics and…

People in this episode

Guest: Júlia Nueno Guitart

Topics covered

• artificial intelligence
• warfare
• policing
• algorithmic governance
• investigative aesthetics
• counter-forensics

Keywords

• AI
• warfare
• policing
• Forensic Architecture
• Gaza
• algorithmic governance
• investigative aesthetics

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Forensic Architecture

Products: Lavender

Books & works: Cartography of the Genocide, The Architecture of Genocidal Starvation, Where’s Daddy

Places: Gaza, Vienna

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