
This episode discusses the readiness of leadership in the face of advancing AI technologies and the implications for organizations.
AI is ready—but leadership isn’t. In this episode of DisrupTV, Ray Wang and Vala Afshar are joined by Joe Kim (CEO of DRUID AI) and Paul McCarthy (author of The Fired Leader) to explore the rise of agentic AI and the leadership crisis holding organizations back. They break down why AI is now a CEO mandate, how agentic systems are changing enterprise architecture, and why modularity, governance, and cost discipline are critical to building AI that lasts. The conversation goes deeper into the human side of transformation—why most leadership development fails, why disruptive leaders are often pushed out, and what it takes to lead in a non-deterministic, AI-driven world. If AI is becoming the operating system of business, then leadership is the real competitive edge. This episode explores what it takes to get both right.
Hosts: Ray Wang, Vala Afshar
Guests: Joe Kim, Paul McCarthy
Organizations: DRUID AI
Books & works: The Fired Leader
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