About this episode

Shawn Johnson East and Andrew East discuss their experiences with identity crises, marriage, and the pursuit of joy beyond achievements.

Despite Olympic gold, NFL dreams, and a life that looked perfect from the outside, Shawn Johnson East and Andrew East faced identity crises, hard pivots, and unexpected lessons that came after the applause faded. They open up about marriage, parenthood, and why chasing achievement isn’t the same thing as finding joy. And Shawn shares the surprising reason some of her happiest moments had nothing to do with winning a medal. "Courage to Commit: Embrace the Radical Power of Sticking with Something" is in bookstores now. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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