The Drum Panel: The corkboard at Piggly Wiggly

About this episode

In this episode, Ben Hilzinger discusses various aspects of drumming and podcasting with guests Eric Urrea and Matt Crouse.

Welcome back to Drummers on Drumming, a podcast powered by Big Fat Snare Drum. I’m Ben Hilzinger, and this is another segment of The Drum Panel. This week I’m joined by Eric Urrea (La Armada, Marina City) and Matt Crouse (Working Drummer podcast). In this episode: Why doing less with your podcast might be the only way to keep it alive The quiet way a podcast can land you real gigs years later Craigslist vs. Nashville vs. “just being in someone’s brain” The real thing bandleaders notice that has nothing to do with chops Caring vs. coasting, and why people can feel it instantly The weird mental spiral of over-practicing and then freezing on stage Why taking a break might fix something faster than grinding it The shift from loving drums to needing them, and what that cost We re-address whether drummers deserve songwriting credit… and why it’s still messy Why some songs wouldn’t exist without the drum part, even if no one admits it --- Get Your Copy of the Drummers on Drumming Book Today! 🎯 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Click here to order now!⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Drummers on Drumming (the book) takes you inside the stories, records, and moments that shaped some of the world’s greatest drummers. Built on the Big…

People in this episode

Host: Ben Hilzinger

Guests: Eric Urrea, Matt Crouse

Topics covered

• podcasting
• music industry
• drumming
• performance anxiety
• songwriting credit
• band dynamics

Keywords

• drumming
• podcasting
• performance
• songwriting
• music careers
• band leadership

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Big Fat Snare Drum, Working Drummer podcast

Places: Craigslist, Nashville

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