About this episode

Ari discusses the psychological barriers to spending money after achieving financial independence with guests Mark and Natalie.

Mark and Natalie did everything “right.” Twenty years of work, saving, and putting off trips for “someday.” When they finally hit financial independence, they still couldn’t book the flights. Not because of math—because of the feeling that spending meant slipping backwards. In this episode of Retirement Reality, Ari sits at their kitchen table and listens. What starts as a budgeting conversation turns into something bigger: how to move from protecting every dollar to actually using money fo...

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