Episode 36: The Scourge of War

Episode 36: The Scourge of War

From EJIL: The Podcast! by European Journal of International Law

July 25, 2025 · 59 min · Episode 36

About this episode

The episode discusses the legality of military actions by Israel and the US against Iran and analyzes a recent European Court of Human Rights judgment related to the war in Ukraine.

In this episode, Dapo Akande, Marko Milanovic and Philippa Webb are joined by Tom Dannenbaum to discuss two sets of issues. First, the legality of the use of force by Israel and the United States against Iran, and specifically its nuclear programme, from the standpoint of the  jus ad bellum . The discussion turns around the possible justifications that Israel can give for its use of force, including the notion of stopping an imminent armed attack by Iran. Second, the recent judgment of the Grand Chamber of the European Court of Human Rights in the interstate case of  Ukraine and the Netherlands v. Russia , which deals with various aspects of the war in Ukraine, including the downing of the MH17. In particular, the contributors analyze the Court’s approach to extraterritorial jurisdiction and to the network of relationships between the European Convention, international humanitarian law and the  jus ad bellum .

People in this episode

Hosts: Dapo Akande, Marko Milanovic, Philippa Webb

Guest: Tom Dannenbaum

Topics covered

  • legality of use of force
  • jus ad bellum
  • extraterritorial jurisdiction
  • war in Ukraine
  • nuclear programme
  • European Convention
  • international humanitarian law

Keywords

  • Israel
  • United States
  • Iran
  • European Court of Human Rights
  • Ukraine
  • jus ad bellum
  • MH17
  • international law
  • extraterritorial jurisdiction
  • nuclear programme

Mentioned in this episode

Organizations: Israel, United States, Iran, European Court of Human Rights, Ukraine, Netherlands, Russia

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