About this episode

Chris and Spencer discuss a call that highlights the consequences of systemic and cultural apathy in emergency response systems.

Chris finds the effects button on the mixer as Spencer relays a call that shows everything that can go wrong when systemic, cultural apathy sets in deep in a system.

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